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No Whaling by Arborean No Whaling by Arborean
It's brutal, I know, but I feel strongly about this.
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Troodontidae Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2011
An AMERICAN using anime to protest against whaling in Japan?
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Croc-Bait Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015
What do you think makes me so respectful of Japan despite what they're doing?
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Arborean Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011
Finally, someone who can appreciate the irony ;).
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SeleneTheWerewolf Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2011
Hell ya! Killing over 50,000 whales and selling it on the black market is NOT science >.> Its cruel and inhumane. I can't wait for the New Sea Shepard's season.
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AlexPhotograpy Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
i ljust love it.
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can i add it to the list?
watch my journal...
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budgies101 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
if you call killing 1000 whales a year from water other than yours how can you call that research. i am sick and tierd of japan saying that they are doing it for reserach cause there not. seroiusly japan needs to stop killing things and have a heart * i dont think they have on, they must of eaten it, they need to think of animal rights and the rule i live by is that !!!!!!!!!!!


if you take life your have to give it back.


please everyone join the fight and go againts japanese whaling!!
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
I really should post something about Iceland and Norway. Norway hunts many minke whales, although they are not considered under threat. Iceland doesn't hunt as many, but they do hunt species that are less secure than Minkes.
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budgies101 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
:iconshameofjapan: join
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ElGuimaro Featured By Owner May 8, 2010   Traditional Artist
Very good one! The 'brutality' in this drawing is nothing compared to the brutality against innocent whales!

P.S. I've done one against whaling too.
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budgies101 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
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Romaniya Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2010
I'm against whaling because there are only a few whales left in the sea. If whaling keeps up, there won't be any whale left soon.

And who says that the japanese can decide or the whale should be erased from our world? The whales belong to all of us! AND THATS WHY ALL OF US HAVE TO DECIDE OR THE WHALE SHOULD BE EXTINCED OR NOT!! Not only those selfish japanese! Those Japanse whalers only think about money! They are selfish, cold and brute!

Not all Japanese are like that. Lots of Japanese are against whaling, but the selfish heartless part of japan doesn't listen to them!
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Arborean Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2010
Thanks Romaniya. I agree with you; There must be Japanese people who are outraged by whaling too. Japan, Iceland, and Norway are all real democracies, I hope that maybe we can appeal to the conscience of the people there and have whaling banned.
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sega31098 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013
There are.
Merzbow is one of them.
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Romaniya Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2010
Yep! A part of Japan is against whaling.
And I really hope that whaling gets banned. Ecspecially those dorks whaling in parts of the sea where whales are protected
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WhisperBeluga Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2010
It's such a cruel excuse; explaining the reason for whaling is for research. Thus they continue commercial whaling, banned in 1986 I believe, and go against the law. So many speak out against it; in Japan, my father was offered whale. Half of the entrees were type of whales. It disgusts me people can do this.
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Xhydralisk Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol, collecting tissue samples my a$$. I saw how many "samples" they get and the "research" that they conduct in protected waters.

Holy snap, chill out. Japan is awesome, whaling isn't. Just because some Japanese PEOPLE are evil, doesn't mean the entire country is; it's as simple as that.
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LadyWithTheHorses Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Agreed. To each his own, so long as it's humane.
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budgies101 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
:iconshameofjapan: join
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LadyWithTheHorses Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Student Digital Artist
:salute: Sir, yes sir!
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jollywrecker92 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2009   Traditional Artist
KlausVon is neither human or animal, just a mere demon who needs to be shot and strung up like the demented vermin he is. And anyway, it may be brutal, but it shows the truth of just how greedy and disgusting Human kind is. A harsh reality. Great job! :)
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budgies101 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
:iconshameofjapan: join our fight
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2009
It has nothing to do with greed, but the racism and mistrust for Japan anti whaling is. Why has not countries like Norway been criticized as much as Japan?

Is it cultural imperialism against the marine diet of the Japanese? Or simply agitators seeking attention? Or even racism? I do know one thing though.
Condemning whaling is alright with me, as long as we can have a cool argument, devoid of name calling and ill will towards each other.
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jollywrecker92 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2009   Traditional Artist
I'm japanese. And I'm the furthest thing from racism, and if you think I am unaware of the arrogant racial people using the Anti-Whaling as an excuse to hate my race, then Gods you have another thing coming.

I have sayings.

The only fa**ots are homophobes.

Save the Whales, harpoon a Whaler.

The only people I'm racist against, are racist people.


Why is Japan critisized more for their fucking whaling? Because we are by far the most intelligent people on this planet, HALF, of the technology in america, we get comes from my home country. We are cool, idolized, or envious people, even hated, and I can understand small bits of hatred. Japanese treat women like trash, they are stubborn and far too proud with some of their ways. As an EXTREMELY technologically advanced race, we have devolope all kinds of ways to travel and grow food on the small area we live in, I stayed there for a month to visit an elderly aunt and uncle of mine I may never see again, there is plenty of american food there to eat, infact, food has grown FAR more abundant.

G*ddamned Whalers and their supporters continue to call the Earth-Conscious people weak, stupid, and whatever else their small brains can conjure up. Is that all you have? Judging us because we are protecting creatures vital to this planet and the planet itself, saying the Eco-helpers don't even take baths? What the heck is that? This is our HOME you fools! These animals were NOT created to be consumed by greedful humans who were not born, no, not born, they crawled from the oil slicken, bloodsoaked depths of Tartarus. Half these supporters, for I REFUSE to call them PEOPLE, nor ANIMAL, have not one clue how a Whale's life cycle works while others need some serious therapy. These animals are 10 times smarter than a Human could ever imagine or hope to be. You don't see them killing someone for money, raping each other, and destroying their own home, or vandalizing others, nor hating each other of childish racism. And all that utter TRASH, of Whales eating away the population of fish, um, hello, small smack of reality for you, they've been eating the same fish before we were even smart enough to make fire. Don't you DARE, take that away from them now. For all I care, Whalers are a DISGRACE to my blood, a DISGRACE to Japanese, even my Japanese grandmother is disgusted by what they do, and she's as traditional as it gets.

Same thing for Norway and Iceland, probably one of my two most favorite places on Earth, BEAUTIFUL, contries. Whaler supporters keep saying "It's not the 60's anymore, you bloody hippies!" Well guess what? That just kind of doesn't make sense now does it? IT'S NOT THE 20'S ANYMORE EITHER, BARBARIANS!!! Humans change, and this Eco-realization is for the better, it's old and bitter fools, or stupid children who are mental who think this is all a game. Not all who support Anti-Whaling is racist, anyone with common sense should know this. And I dispise Racism, DISPISE it.

A self established quota of 900 Whales huh? Do you even know that they DO kill the mother and infant? The stabbed a Minke infant, dragged it off of the mother's back because he was a sitting target on her, to take a breath and a rest because they were traveling to feeding grounds. And while the mother charged the boat to save her baby, screaming, they shot her too. BAM, two for one deal right? It's okay that they slosh around in the water with a spear in their organs, screaming screams we can't hear, taking an HOUR to die. And, another thing, with 900 Whales being killed, we won't have many long. These animals only have babies only every 2 to 3 years? That is nowhere near fast enough to reproduce at the rate they kill. And killing a mother and child is MURDER. Humans think they're better than everything else, in truth, we're the stupidest creatures I've ever seen. Nature made a serious mess-up, and for those who think we were created by God, all I have to say is this: God cracked the mold when he made us. And no, I am being no hypocrit, because I am disgusted to be in Human skin.

We may be animals, but if you creatures want to promote our intelligence, how about trying to do something useful, like giving back to the planet you take from everyday? And actually, Whalers are really doing a good example at one thing, showing how stupid and primitive the Human race is, same for the supporters, a real good promotion for the still-dumb part of the race, with a block of wood for a brain they can't grasp anything too complicated asides from, Money, Money, Money, Kill, Kill, Kill. Thanks for the helping destroy the planet, the very thing you were born on. The Whalers get around $1,000,000 dollars a Whale, hence the only reason they kill them. Greed. Only %10 percent of the Japanese population eats Whale anymore. And if they wanted to do this for Research, ONE, Whale can supply them with 10 years worth of it.

You see, thanks to the little loop hole of lazy law inforcement, Commercial Whaling still continues under pretence, if you're capable of understanding that. It's as easy as saying "Hey, Whaling isn't allowed, get out of our waters and go home." If I were out at sea, I would shoot weighted harpoons into the Whaling Ships' hulls, and watch them list and sink with a grin on my face. And no, I would not save the crew. They can stay and drown for all I care. It's only fair right? The Whales drown in their own blood once those grenaded tips explode inside them, shredding their organs and perhaps even the sweet little baby inside her, so why not the very killers that end their peaceful lives?

And as for the Sea Shepherd, I support them %100 percent. The law can stop them, but you see, the Sea Shepherd are the only ones with the guts to stop them. And all who are against the Sea Shepherd are political cowards who hide behind laws. We may have laws, but the Whales do not. These people don't want attention, they want the attention to be put on the Whales and what's happening to them. And the Sea Shepherd crew is actually supported by some of the biggest Band Names, and Celebrities in media history. Whalers, and their supporters, just like all other evil, will be chased back into a corner as more and more Eco-Conscious people come into the world. And like ALL evil, Whaling will die away, with no escape.

And if you think condeming Whaling is fine, stop saying disgusting things on peoples art who support stopping Whaling you twisted filth. Make up your mind, you either want Whales alive and happy, or miserable and dead. This has nothing to be with Cultrural Imperialism, or attention or further more racism. That fact they murder animals is purely wrong. THAT, is what this is about. If anybody gets their wacks off seeing Whales die, then I recommend serious therapitic help, or even a psycho ward. If the concept is THAT hard to grab, then that's the person's own mental roadblock.
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2009
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Why is Japan critisized more for their fucking whaling? Because we are by far the most intelligent people on this planet, HALF, of the technology in america, we get comes from my home country. We are cool, idolized, or envious people, even hated, and I can understand small bits of hatred. Japanese treat women like trash, they are stubborn and far too proud with some of their ways. As an EXTREMELY technologically advanced race, we have devolope all kinds of ways to travel and grow food on the small area we live in, I stayed there for a month to visit an elderly aunt and uncle of mine I may never see again, there is plenty of american food there to eat, infact, food has grown FAR more abundant. "
Point one: We simply cannot self sustain our food. We import a large majority of our food, and the only self sufficient crop if rice, and even thats under heavy subsidies.
Whaling can be an alternative to American and Australian beef, for depending on imports too much can be very damaging in a crisis where our imports can be blocked off.
(examples would be tensions between Capitalist US and Japan, North Korea, China, and Russia)


"G*ddamned Whalers and their supporters continue to call the Earth-Conscious people weak, stupid, and whatever else their small brains can conjure up. Is that all you have? Judging us because we are protecting creatures vital to this planet and the planet itself, saying the Eco-helpers don't even take baths? What the heck is that? This is our HOME you fools! These animals were NOT created to be consumed by greedful humans who were not born, no, not born, they crawled from the oil slicken, bloodsoaked depths of Tartarus. Half these supporters, for I REFUSE to call them PEOPLE, nor ANIMAL, have not one clue how a Whale's life cycle works while others need some serious therapy. These animals are 10 times smarter than a Human could ever imagine or hope to be. You don't see them killing someone for money, raping each other, and destroying their own home, or vandalizing others, nor hating each other of childish racism. And all that utter TRASH, of Whales eating away the population of fish, um, hello, small smack of reality for you, they've been eating the same fish before we were even smart enough to make fire. Don't you DARE, take that away from them now. For all I care, Whalers are a DISGRACE to my blood, a DISGRACE to Japanese, even my Japanese grandmother is disgusted by what they do, and she's as traditional as it gets. "

I never said the "Eco helpers are disgusting, barberic etc..." Though I should have been clearer, I was talking about the Nations, and their leaders, which passed the moratorium on whaling in the IWC.

Also, why do you assume that there is a purpouse in something? Whales are there due to an evolutionary process that favoured those that lived over those that died away. I am not calling for open season on the whales, but a careful, sustainable whaling.

During crisis, like The Great East Asian War (大東亜戦争), and the postwar period, whales provided much needed Protein to the Japanese people, under the opression of the Imperialistic Americans.

"Same thing for Norway and Iceland, probably one of my two most favorite places on Earth, BEAUTIFUL, contries. Whaler supporters keep saying "It's not the 60's anymore, you bloody hippies!" Well guess what? That just kind of doesn't make sense now does it? IT'S NOT THE 20'S ANYMORE EITHER, BARBARIANS!!! Humans change, and this Eco-realization is for the better, it's old and bitter fools, or stupid children who are mental who think this is all a game. Not all who support Anti-Whaling is racist, anyone with common sense should know this. And I dispise Racism, DISPISE it."

Please, do not accuse me of anything I have not said, M'kay? No, I never said they were all racist. I am saying the Moratorium came from anti-Japanese sentiment rooted in racism and the economic supiriority of the Japanese during 80's.

"A self established quota of 900 Whales huh? Do you even know that they DO kill the mother and infant? The stabbed a Minke infant, dragged it off of the mother's back because he was a sitting target on her, to take a breath and a rest because they were traveling to feeding grounds. And while the mother charged the boat to save her baby, screaming, they shot her too. BAM, two for one deal right? It's okay that they slosh around in the water with a spear in their organs, screaming screams we can't hear, taking an HOUR to die. And, another thing, with 900 Whales being killed, we won't have many long. These animals only have babies only every 2 to 3 years? That is nowhere near fast enough to reproduce at the rate they kill. And killing a mother and child is MURDER. Humans think they're better than everything else, in truth, we're the stupidest creatures I've ever seen. Nature made a serious mess-up, and for those who think we were created by God, all I have to say is this: God cracked the mold when he made us. And no, I am being no hypocrit, because I am disgusted to be in Human skin. "

Murder is defined as killing of human beings. M'kay? And no, I do not beleive in Creationism, and all the evil that is.
Remember, the scientific whaling being done is still a survey of how much we can whale.

"We may be animals, but if you creatures want to promote our intelligence, how about trying to do something useful, like giving back to the planet you take from everyday? And actually, Whalers are really doing a good example at one thing, showing how stupid and primitive the Human race is, same for the supporters, a real good promotion for the still-dumb part of the race, with a block of wood for a brain they can't grasp anything too complicated asides from, Money, Money, Money, Kill, Kill, Kill. Thanks for the helping destroy the planet, the very thing you were born on. The Whalers get around $1,000,000 dollars a Whale, hence the only reason they kill them. Greed. Only %10 percent of the Japanese population eats Whale anymore. And if they wanted to do this for Research, ONE, Whale can supply them with 10 years worth of it. "

Part of the whaling is to see how many whales there are, as well as a wide survey on the state of the whales.
And the only reason only 10% of the population eat whale anymore is because of the Moratorium.
"You see, thanks to the little loop hole of lazy law inforcement, Commercial Whaling still continues under pretence, if you're capable of understanding that. It's as easy as saying "Hey, Whaling isn't allowed, get out of our waters and go home." If I were out at sea, I would shoot weighted harpoons into the Whaling Ships' hulls, and watch them list and sink with a grin on my face. And no, I would not save the crew. They can stay and drown for all I care. It's only fair right? The Whales drown in their own blood once those grenaded tips explode inside them, shredding their organs and perhaps even the sweet little baby inside her, so why not the very killers that end their peaceful lives? "

If you do not like the supposed violence and cruelty, yak yak yak, that has been directed against whales, why do it againt humans? And as for Sea Sheperd, they are but Pirates and Terrorists, promoting violence, hate, and seeking attention from the media, and the funding that comes from the attention (seen "Whale Wars" anybody?). As for attention by celebrities and brand names, they are but co-conspiritors of those who want Japanese marine diet culture down for their own selfish reasons.

"And if you think condeming Whaling is fine, stop saying disgusting things on peoples art who support stopping Whaling you twisted filth. Make up your mind, you either want Whales alive and happy, or miserable and dead. This has nothing to be with Cultrural Imperialism, or attention or further more racism. That fact they murder animals is purely wrong. THAT, is what this is about. If anybody gets their wacks off seeing Whales die, then I recommend serious therapitic help, or even a psycho ward. If the concept is THAT hard to grab, then that's the person's own mental roadblock."

All I said that argument on the issue is fine. Japan is a representative democracy. The leaders argue on issues, and I do not see why we should not on this one.
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jollywrecker92 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2009   Traditional Artist
The killing of Whales is to see how many there are? ...... How the hell do you kind of people get away with existing? What in hell gives birth to people like you? Something obviously not Human, or Animal. Or rather, not Animal, or Animal. Honestly, were you seriously BORN or did you crawl out of the pits of hell like Hitler?

Decreasing the numbers of an already struggling race isn't helping jacksh** on Whaling, asides from decreasing numbers and causing uneeded painful deaths, Whalers go about using research as an exscuse to destroy a species just to stuff their gullible, spoiled, repulsive, fat, pathetic, faces and rake in nothing but money for an already EXTREMELY rich population. Way of life my backside, go get a real job.

Infact it shouldn't be allowed at all, not even controlled Whaling, because there is no such thing as controlled Whaling, maybe in your little dream world, but not in reality. And controlled Whaling does nothing for the fact these animals take an hour to die, MISERABLY, you selfish f*ck. But hey who cares right? It isn't your sorry hind getting shot. Unfortunately that is.

What are you going to do huh? Kill them down to the last one and go, "Op, that's all there was, lets go hunt the next animal down! And see how many there is there!"... ? Come the next generation of our kind, there will be none left for them to see, and the ocean will be so damn poluted with overgrowth and it will be the faults of people like you who think slaughter should be allowed.


And, you've still yet to give me a legitiment reason for the garbage you spew on the pages of art pieces of people who know support Anti-Whaling. So I'm thinking you don't have one and just go about to make an ass of yourself. Real nice.

Why perform violence against an already violent race? We no longer deserve the title of Human Beings, it's an insult to the word Humane. And unfortunately, that is the only way to rid of the world of them, to kill them. Killers no longer listen to reason regardless of the chances they will be given and will always return to their old ways.

And no, only 10% percent of Japan eats Whale anymore is because they know what the Whalers are doing is wrong, especially the younger generations, who have far more common sense and intelligence than anyone elses who supports the destruction of habitat of another race and their OWN planet. This planet doesn't even belong to us either.

And murder is reserved for humans only huh? Another fine example of Human stupidity and arrogance. THEY are a race as well, MANY if not ALL Mammals on the planet have the same characteristics as us save the same form. They have hair, LIKE WE DO. They have skin, LIKE WE DO. They have teeth, LIKE WE DO. They have eyes, LIKE WE DO. They have blood. tissue, organs, LIKE WE DO. They have noses, LIKE WE DO. They need to eat, LIKE WE DO. They give birth and produce milk, LIKE WE DO. They protect their young, LIKE WE DO. They kill something of threat, LIKE WE DO. Hell, they kill others offspring of the same species, LIKE WE DO. "Animals" do feel pain, love, fear, stress, agony, loss, depression, anger, wariness, exhaustion, lonliness. And you must be blind not to see it, or mentally challenged. They have their own families to raise and feed, and their "jobs" is to go hunt, and bring back food for their family. Just like us, except we do not hunt directly, we use money to buy produce, dairy, and other foods from sellers, other animals don't have that option. "Animals" however, do not abide by laws they've created for themselves, asides from a common pecking order, and the laws of nature. Because they do not murder their own kind, rape each other, rape other's children, slaughter each other in war, create atomic bombs, radiation poisoning, kill for petty perposes like robbery or simple hatred for one's spouse, greed, being a more complicative species, thought-wise, we're at more risk for mental complications (many of us being good examples), aggression, and self destruction of our own society.

Whales are there for a perpose, and it's not to be consumed by idiot creatures such as ourselves. Humans have not fullfilled their perpose, to keep the place they live on clean and healthy. Whales keep the ocean in balance, just incase you didn't learn this, that it's called -- ironically -- The Circle Of Life. Krill eat plankton, Fish eat plankton and krill and smaller fish, Whales eat fish and krill to keep the smaller fish from over populating, but Humans are depriving them of their food saying they over eat when they've been eating the same fish for millions of years without our thievery. When Whales die of old age, they sink to the bottom of the ocean to feed the life down there like eels and various sharks. even bacteria, or, (Excluding the interference of Homo Sapiens), they fall victim to Orca at a young age, who only go for the calfs of Humpback or any other Whale on the local Orca menu. Orca are the main predator of larger Whales, keep THEM in check. Other corpses are eaten away by sharks, birds due to them floating on the surface, filled with gases from decomposition in the water, and even drift to land where they lay on the beach and benefit bears, foxes, hawks, eagles, and other small carnivores.

Also, without Whales, the fish would over populate and polute coral reefs and shore lines first where the plankton gather, with waste and several strains of bacteria, killing off coral reef civilizations making them uninhabitable, bacteria begins to overwhelm certain areas, making them unfishable from the overload of fish feces of many kinds, and certainly unlivable for many aquatic and land animals, the ocean can turn into a toxic dump in the next 200 years, and we are surely helping that along with our pollution and killing one of the world's most magnificent animals who are of more benefit to the us in the OCEAN, where they belong, and not in our stomachs. The krill overbreeding first and overwhelming the smaller feeders is another concern, who also would overbreed and yet wouldn't be able to adapt fast enough to the severe chemical change in the water from the toxics formed offshore, that will happen within the 100 years after Whales are gone, they wouldn't keep up with their mass expansion.

Whales eating as much as they do, help keep that from happening. Not even idiot Humans can keep up with the breeding of krill and other small sea life which, if thrown out of balance can become dangerous. Although I'd like to see them try. That'd be a comical sight.


People don't change until the final hour, when all things are about to grow dark and THEN, then they realize what is going on and what is being done wrong.


Why do you assume there's a perpose for your existance asides from instigating, being a boil on the butt of the planet like the rest of us, and supporting the ending of the of Whales, and saying souless things on peoples art pages who want to protect them? I know there's a perpose for me, to support stopping the hunt and wanting to crush killers once and for all and making this world a better place. They go hungry, well, that's Japan's fault with their stubborn ways, their smart as hell, they will figure it out and find something more sustainable and less vital to the planet to eat. They always do. They've changed alot, hopefully they can change more for the better and drop this rediculous act. Their lies are really doing them a good job of disgracing themselves. And to think, my kind was of Honor.
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2009
"The killing of Whales is to see how many there are? ...... How the hell do you kind of people get away with existing? What in hell gives birth to people like you? Something obviously not Human, or Animal. Or rather, not Animal, or Animal. "
Its not JUST to see how many there are, but research the whales themselves, teh pollutants in whales, and so on.

I'm not gonna comment on "Honestly, were you seriously BORN or did you crawl out of the pits of hell like Hitler?". Thats obviously inflamatory and not related.

"Decreasing the numbers of an already struggling race isn't helping jacksh** on Whaling, asides from decreasing numbers and causing uneeded painful deaths, Whalers go about using research as an exscuse to destroy a species just to stuff their gullible, spoiled, repulsive, fat, pathetic, faces and rake in nothing but money for an already EXTREMELY rich population. Way of life my backside, go get a real job."

Most of the whalers are relatively poor fishermen. The crew does contain government personnel, and coast guard people to protect from Terrorism.

"Infact it shouldn't be allowed at all, not even controlled Whaling, because there is no such thing as controlled Whaling, maybe in your little dream world, but not in reality. And controlled Whaling does nothing for the fact these animals take an hour to die, MISERABLY, you selfish f*ck. But hey who cares right? It isn't your sorry hind getting shot. Unfortunately that is."

Evidence? I also think that advocating violence towards your fellow man over anything is such a good idea. It could get you in bad places, and I don't want that. Even if I don't agree with you. Moral supremacy is mine now.

"What are you going to do huh? Kill them down to the last one and go, "Op, that's all there was, lets go hunt the next animal down! And see how many there is there!"... ? Come the next generation of our kind, there will be none left for them to see, and the ocean will be so damn poluted with overgrowth and it will be the faults of people like you who think slaughter should be allowed."
Again, you are advocating violence. Against people. I really shouldn't talk with people who advocate terrorism.
Anyway, you assume that whaling can never be controlled, on which point I disagree with.

"And, you've still yet to give me a legitiment reason for the garbage you spew on the pages of art pieces of people who know support Anti-Whaling. So I'm thinking you don't have one and just go about to make an ass of yourself. Real nice.

Why perform violence against an already violent race? We no longer deserve the title of Human Beings, it's an insult to the word Humane. And unfortunately, that is the only way to rid of the world of them, to kill them. Killers no longer listen to reason regardless of the chances they will be given and will always return to their old ways. "

Again you are advocating terrorism. Thats precisely why we need the defence forces to defend our ships.

"And no, only 10% percent of Japan eats Whale anymore is because they know what the Whalers are doing is wrong, especially the younger generations, who have far more common sense and intelligence than anyone elses who supports the destruction of habitat of another race and their OWN planet. This planet doesn't even belong to us either. "

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All of the Japanese parties, from the LDP to the Communist party, supports whaling. I'm sure that reflects the sentiment of a lot of the Japanese people.

"And murder is reserved for humans only huh? Another fine example of Human stupidity and arrogance. THEY are a race as well, MANY if not ALL Mammals on the planet have the same characteristics as us save the same form. They have hair, LIKE WE DO. They have skin, LIKE WE DO. They have teeth, LIKE WE DO. They have eyes, LIKE WE DO. They have blood. tissue, organs, LIKE WE DO. They have noses, LIKE WE DO. They need to eat, LIKE WE DO. They give birth and produce milk, LIKE WE DO. They protect their young, LIKE WE DO. They kill something of threat, LIKE WE DO. Hell, they kill others offspring of the same species, LIKE WE DO. "Animals" do feel pain, love, fear, stress, agony, loss, depression, anger, wariness, exhaustion, lonliness. And you must be blind not to see it, or mentally challenged. They have their own families to raise and feed, and their "jobs" is to go hunt, and bring back food for their family. Just like us, except we do not hunt directly, we use money to buy produce, dairy, and other foods from sellers, other animals don't have that option. "Animals" however, do not abide by laws they've created for themselves, asides from a common pecking order, and the laws of nature. Because they do not murder their own kind, rape each other, rape other's children, slaughter each other in war, create atomic bombs, radiation poisoning, kill for petty perposes like robbery or simple hatred for one's spouse, greed, being a more complicative species, thought-wise, we're at more risk for mental complications (many of us being good examples), aggression, and self destruction of our own society."

Many species have been known to kill each other, rape, I'm not sure, and anyway, I was referring to the dictionary defenition.

"Whales are there for a perpose, and it's not to be consumed by idiot creatures such as ourselves. Humans have not fullfilled their perpose, to keep the place they live on clean and healthy. Whales keep the ocean in balance, just incase you didn't learn this, that it's called -- ironically -- The Circle Of Life. Krill eat plankton, Fish eat plankton and krill and smaller fish, Whales eat fish and krill to keep the smaller fish from over populating, but Humans are depriving them of their food saying they over eat when they've been eating the same fish for millions of years without our thievery. When Whales die of old age, they sink to the bottom of the ocean to feed the life down there like eels and various sharks. even bacteria, or, (Excluding the interference of Homo Sapiens), they fall victim to Orca at a young age, who only go for the calfs of Humpback or any other Whale on the local Orca menu. Orca are the main predator of larger Whales, keep THEM in check. Other corpses are eaten away by sharks, birds due to them floating on the surface, filled with gases from decomposition in the water, and even drift to land where they lay on the beach and benefit bears, foxes, hawks, eagles, and other small carnivores. "


And what does that have to do with purpose? It just shows how nature has come to work. Beutiful, I know, but I see no purpouse, or need for any there.

"Also, without Whales, the fish would over populate and polute coral reefs and shore lines first where the plankton gather, with waste and several strains of bacteria, killing off coral reef civilizations making them uninhabitable, bacteria begins to overwhelm certain areas, making them unfishable from the overload of fish feces of many kinds, and certainly unlivable for many aquatic and land animals, the ocean can turn into a toxic dump in the next 200 years, and we are surely helping that along with our pollution and killing one of the world's most magnificent animals who are of more benefit to the us in the OCEAN, where they belong, and not in our stomachs. The krill overbreeding first and overwhelming the smaller feeders is another concern, who also would overbreed and yet wouldn't be able to adapt fast enough to the severe chemical change in the water from the toxics formed offshore, that will happen within the 100 years after Whales are gone, they wouldn't keep up with their mass expansion. "

....THats the opposite argument to the Japanese'
Seriously. There are not enough fish to go around. Keeping the whale population in check will result in better caches.

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Whales eating as much as they do, help keep that from happening. Not even idiot Humans can keep up with the breeding of krill and other small sea life which, if thrown out of balance can become dangerous. Although I'd like to see them try. That'd be a comical sight.


People don't change until the final hour, when all things are about to grow dark and THEN, then they realize what is going on and what is being done wrong. "

People have already done most of that. XD

"Why do you assume there's a perpose for your existance asides from instigating, being a boil on the butt of the planet like the rest of us, and supporting the ending of the of Whales, and saying souless things on peoples art pages who want to protect them? I know there's a perpose for me, to support stopping the hunt and wanting to crush killers once and for all and making this world a better place. They go hungry, well, that's Japan's fault with their stubborn ways, their smart as hell, they will figure it out and find something more sustainable and less vital to the planet to eat. They always do. They've changed alot, hopefully they can change more for the better and drop this rediculous act. Their lies are really doing them a good job of disgracing themselves. And to think, my kind was of Honor."

I never said I have a purpouse in life. For the last time, stop blaming me for things I did not say or do.
Oh, and use a spellchecker. Google chrome has a very good one.
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jollywrecker92 Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2009   Traditional Artist
So you support Communism who support Whaling and slaughter, HEHEHSHIT, go figure~ XD

And again, the Coast Guard has nothing to do with killing Whales, they have to do with preventing Terrorism, pretty much what they are doing in American Waters, being Terrorists. The Humpback Whale was a protected animal for a reason, nearly being hunted to extinction along with it's many cousins and still IS near extinction. And against the law in US waters by having the arrogance to overlap it with their own laws that only abide in THEIR waters, the Japanese are going after a STILL protected animal.

Hohowoooow.... *Snickers wheezily* Sorry, Asthma... Targeting my writing errors is such greatness. Very nice... Huuh, you might want to go over your own writing before saying something about someone else's mess-ups, it's a common thing, and my god, that come back is so old it's turning into a fossil.

And so you say don't have a perpouse? Or what? You half-assed the answer again? If not.... It's another plus, you don't have perpouse. You just materialized to give people of good moral, grief. Oh, wait, nevermind, that was a perpouse...

Many have changed for the better, yes, and are eating more sustainable animals that actually being killed humanely, others haven't, and you're a good example of those who haven't and support inhumane and slaughtering ways like a caveman, because they are savage, primitive, and fudal. And again, you've still ignored the whole point, just to get back at me.

That the Whales die miserably and are being overly hunted at 900 a year, there's only 10,000 left, and their reproduction rate, is not as mass as you seem to think. Having an infant only once every two to three years, as I clearly stated. Having noted we take a rediculous and uneeded chunk out of a dying race each year is NOT helping that sickening fact. And you have not said anything regarding that concern, either because you don't care being that you aren't the one getting shot with a grenaded tip, and flailing in the water for thirty minutes to an hour bleeding to death, or having an infant that was carried for 13 to 18 months and then starved yourself for 5 months so you made sure it had the strength to carry on 2,000 miles to eat food every year, torn from your back just because he/she was resting and taking a breathe during the trip, or you have no excuse. Uhm, hello-pull-head-out-of-butt, yes?

This arguement wasn't about moral supremacy, again, another thing about Humans. They try to dominate and make themselves look good (Example: I PWN u N00B!!!11 *Rolls her eyes*), turning it into a topic totally unrelated on the current subject.


If there's any moral, it's lacking in the mind of Whalers, and those fishermen can easily capture smaller fish inland which are just as plentiful, where my aunt and uncle live in, which is Miyakonojo (Mind you, major countryside there), the fishermen are friendly there, and actually many find Whales to be beautiful creatures and not a dinner bell, nor do they carry any in their stock and they do make quite a living there with the stock they DO sell. And I do know this can not be consistant for all areas, regardless, the amount of fish that are harvested, nearly 45% of it is wasted. Because we do not measure our intake, stupid mistake. Educate yourself with study before taking from something you aren't going to give back to. And with a decent education, those poor fishermen can get a decent job to support their family, your race matters not in Japan, or your heritage, everyone is equally capable to get a job. Even if it's so much as working in a fast food joint. Dispite it being a fast food place one can't complain, it still pays better than sitting in a smelly fish market, it may be family tradition, but there's always the good oddball who does something new. Some places put total idiots behind the counter, as long as they have the capability to learn what goes where, what to say and how it works. And there are plenty of fast food places in Japan even in cute little Miyakonojo. And really it's not that far to travel into the city being it such a small country.


And AGAIN, you've yet to provide me with reasons for the crap you say. You're avoiding me, or get you're highs off aggrivating people.

"Lets eat them both!" ....Oook? Sure, eat Hello Kitty, it's a cartoon character, but you still show your greed to consume a dying race, good Christ.

And again, there is perpouse to all the Whales, they keep the ocean clean and under control, even the very creatures who live in it can cause catastrophy when their predator is killed off. And keeping Whales.... In check? Holy sh*t did you miss the point again? ... Brain must go into shut down.... Hm.


*Sighs* AGAIN, Whales have been in CHECK before Humans came from.... Wherever the heck they came from. Whether it be the pits of hell (most likely given our idiot and violent nature *sarcasm*), or evolution, or God made us. God made a mistake making Humanity, *Looks up* Pardon my saying so dude, I'm not being arrogant, just saying.

Anyway, keeping the Whales in check, is actually a Whales job. Those for the job are called Orca or Killer Whales. Their diet consists of Seals, Birds, Fish and other Whales which they often succeed in stealing the poor baby from. Yeah no duh, other mammals kill each other, it's with good perpose, to protect themselves or their family or turf, or it's for food for survival. But they don't comsume madly like Humans do. They've been managing without us for millions of years, as I've said. So now, not only are we depriving the ocean of it's food-chain balance maintainers, but it's also depriving the Orca of food as well. Good job, steal someone elses food. So, soon they will have to rely on Seals and Birds and smaller Fish more, seeing as they can't feed on other Whales to keep themselves full and keep THEM from overbreeding, they will begin to eat them down because the Seals will not be able to keep up with the rapid Orca swell. What are you going to do? Wipeout the Orca too? Their short life-spans keep Orcas in check all on their own.

Nature is beautiful, too bad you support fucking it up and killing it. And suddenly the toxicity levels is of major concern to them NOW? Should have thought of that before people starting dumping sh*t into the water. And they aren't researching jack, if they want to study something, go look for a Whale corpse. Everyday, a Whale dies of old age or disease and are set afloat, that being without Human intervention. But then someone's going to complain it'll take too long to search for Whale corpses then they'll take the chance of feeding for the other creatures in the dark by harvesting the whole Whale. Small tissue portions are enough. That is why none asian countries are tagging Whales in a gentle manner to study so that it doesn't intervene in their lives, and the tagged Whales can go on their merry way. Or, you could NOT being a murderous dumb*ss, and make a giant hoist, effectively picking the Whale up out of the water, just like the mats used to carry sick Whales from shore to transfer to Sanctuaries, and I'm not talking that damn Sea World who use them for tricks and amusement. As big as the Nishin Maru is, it can easy do so with extreme engineering that Japan doesn't want to put the money into instead of harpooning cruely. Blood samples can be taken, then, the Whale can be released. If those idiots are so worried about toxins, IMPROVISE. Or, take advantage of a beaching situation, and take a blood sample from there, but don't be greedy with time if the Whale is still alive, and try to help the Whale back into the water, where it belongs. It can be done, it HAS been done, the saving part anyway.
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2009
((sorry for the deyaled reply, was off in the countryside for some time))

XD I was talking about Japanese Coast guard, my bad.

Pointing out one location of plenty ignores the general decline of fish in the waters Japan fishes in.

Unfortulately, because of the US Capitalist Screw up known as the sub prime crisis, job market is getting smaller in the homeland.

And as for the keeping in check argument, I shall intruduce mr. Japan Cetecean Research.
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Hopefully that explains some of the things you do not want to know.
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2009
Jolly, I agree with most of what you say about whaling. But your more inflammatory remarks are unnecessary. Yes, Klaus has used some baiting tactics (mKay?), but nothing as scary as the things you say about people not being humans and such...

I think you misunderstand nature, fundamentally. There is no purpose in nature, there is only what works and doesn't work. Just because a human does something despicable doesn't mean they are not human. It just means that despicable acts are part of being human, I think you acknowledged this. As for nukes, well, no animal has the intellect to create advanced weapons; but animals are always willing to use an advantage. This leads me to believe that if they could make nukes, they may actually use them! The fact is that humans are a species that has no natural check and have expanded in the same way any other species with no check would (like rabbits in Australia or American crawfish in China).

All our emotions and strange behaviours are a product of the way we have evolved, and in that context there is no evil or good involved. But within a cultural context there are things that are considered good or evil. In my opinion, you can accuse a human within a cultural context of being evil; but you cannot accuse an evolutionary path of being evil, because it is not subject to our culture. In fact, our inevitable tendency to create culture and standards for good and evil are part of our evolutionary path.

In the end, humans are only interested in surviving. Our job is to convince whalers that killing whales has no effect on their survival. They can easily survive without hunting whales.
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2009
Jolly, you say you are not racist, and yet you say that that Japanese are the smartest people in the world? That seems like racism to me. Personally, I don't like the word "race" at all. We are all the same species and our differences have arisen from cultural development in different geographical locations. Culture, not genetics, affects the way we think and that is the major difference between ethnic groups. People in Iceland, Norway, Japan, and certain native American tribes who want to whale are all equally wrong in my mind.

By the way, have you ever watched the documentary "Blue Planet"? It shows a pod of killer whales harass a mother Blue Whale and her calf until the mother is too tired to protect her child. After that, the killer whales kill the calf, nibble on its nose, and let its carcass fall to the sea floor uneaten. All animals are capable of savagery, humans are not an exception. The sad thing about evolution is that a lot of the times, the jerk wins. It maybe because of this fact that we should treasure the more docile and well natured animals on this planet - plankton eating whales being among them (the plankton may disagree:).

You may be surprised to read this, but I also think that what the Sea Shepherds are doing is illegal. The proper thing to do would be to lobby the UN to have an outright ban on whaling. None of this "for science" nonsense makes sense to me. I think the idea of hunting whales in order to count them is idiotic.

Do you know how many whales there are after you kill a whale? One less than before!

I don't think there is justification for commercial whaling, especially since nobody's been eating whales for 20 years. I think it's safe to say we've kicked the habit, don't you? Going back to hunting whales would be like an ex-smoker starting to smoke again after being clean for 20 years. I think there is a certain threshold of intelligence past which you should not kill animals. Whales are too intelligent to kill.

Past that sentimental argument, I would argue that as an animal at the top of the food chain, whales are very important to the eco system and losing them would cause a lot of problems further down the food chain. I would also add that since they cannot be domesticated and raised economically, whaling is fundamentally non-sustainable. All our food production except for fishing is done in an enclosed environment with domesticated strains, this is the best way to go. Gathering from wild sources on an industrial scale is very hard to sustain, and as far as I am aware it has never been done. Humans (like all animals) have a very hard time showing restraint when given free reign over an untapped resource. This is whay the oceans are so severly over-fished. Fish farms would be far more prefferable and sustainable. But since we cannot farm whales, how about we just call the whole whale-eating thing off?

If you are that hungry for whale meat, just use the "research" whales to find the whale stem cells and grow the meat in a lab. That way you don’t have to kill a sentient being. Incidentally, I think this would be a good solution for cows and hogs too.
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2009
"Jolly, you say you are not racist, and yet you say that that Japanese are the smartest people in the world? That seems like racism to me. Personally, I don't like the word "race" at all. We are all the same species and our differences have arisen from cultural development in different geographical locations. Culture, not genetics, affects the way we think and that is the major difference between ethnic groups. People in Iceland, Norway, Japan, and certain native American tribes who want to whale are all equally wrong in my mind."

.....And so, destroying the native cultural heritages of those people.

"By the way, have you ever watched the documentary "Blue Planet"? It shows a pod of killer whales harass a mother Blue Whale and her calf until the mother is too tired to protect her child. After that, the killer whales kill the calf, nibble on its nose, and let its carcass fall to the sea floor uneaten. All animals are capable of savagery, humans are not an exception. The sad thing about evolution is that a lot of the times, the jerk wins. It maybe because of this fact that we should treasure the more docile and well natured animals on this planet - plankton eating whales being among them (the plankton may disagree."

I would not say it is savagery. The carcass, which falls to the bottom, will be eaten by plankton, microbes, and deep sea fish, which in turn, feeds whales, bigger fish, humans and so fourth.

"You may be surprised to read this, but I also think that what the Sea Shepherds are doing is illegal. The proper thing to do would be to lobby the UN to have an outright ban on whaling. None of this "for science" nonsense makes sense to me. I think the idea of hunting whales in order to count them is idiotic. "

Its not only to count them, but to see what kinds of things (pollutants, etc) are in the whales, as well as to study the whales themselves.

"I don't think there is justification for commercial whaling, especially since nobody's been eating whales for 20 years. I think it's safe to say we've kicked the habit, don't you? Going back to hunting whales would be like an ex-smoker starting to smoke again after being clean for 20 years. I think there is a certain threshold of intelligence past which you should not kill animals. Whales are too intelligent to kill."

Not true. The Westerners never actually ate the whales, but used the blubber for fuel. On the other hand, Japanese have been whaling for legitamate food, and still has a reason to whale, that being that most of our meats are imported.
Too Intelligent to kill? The Intelligence of whales are still largely under debate, and if you are not going to kill something for its intelligence, Pigs have been proven to be Intelligent, and they are farmed and eaten on a massive scale.

"Past that sentimental argument, I would argue that as an animal at the top of the food chain, whales are very important to the eco system and losing them would cause a lot of problems further down the food chain. I would also add that since they cannot be domesticated and raised economically, whaling is fundamentally non-sustainable. All our food production except for fishing is done in an enclosed environment with domesticated strains, this is the best way to go. Gathering from wild sources on an industrial scale is very hard to sustain, and as far as I am aware it has never been done. Humans (like all animals) have a very hard time showing restraint when given free reign over an untapped resource. This is whay the oceans are so severly over-fished. Fish farms would be far more prefferable and sustainable. But since we cannot farm whales, how about we just call the whole whale-eating thing off?"

Fish, if fished in a balanced manner (no pun intended) can be sustainable, and I would assume that whaling can be sustainable if done right. Thats what the Japanese are doing right now, among ither things.
Japan is small. But the sea is large. And so is the threat of getting cut off from our imports.

"If you are that hungry for whale meat, just use the "research" whales to find the whale stem cells and grow the meat in a lab. That way you don’t have to kill a sentient being. Incidentally, I think this would be a good solution for cows and hogs too."

I'm sorry, but you just can't do that. It would be very, very nice if we could, but we can't YET. Hopefully that will change.
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2009
".....And so, destroying the native cultural heritages of those people."

I have never shown preference to behaviours that are considered "cultural heritage". Human sacrifice, cannibalism, and sexism are just a few behaviours that are part of certain cultures' heritages, that doesn't mean they are right! All the above behavior are ones that I consider wrong.

As for killer whales, they are not beyond my judgment either. The fact is that they were killing for sport, and in my opinion, killing for sport is savagery.

Klaus, you are using a distmantlative argument here. You are trying to invalidate my belief that something is wrong by offering something that you think is wrong. The racism/imperialism counterpoint does not offer logical argument against my points. Just because imperialism or racism against the Japanese is wrong doesn't mean that whaling is right. In fact, racism and imperialism have no bearing on what I think about the act of whaling. Whaling is wrong in my opinion, and offering distractions by pulling the race card does not change that.

I am not fundamentally opposed to fishing. I just feel that people need to invest a lot more willpower in making it balanced. But I still think that farming (fish farming) is far more preferable to hunting/gathering (fishing) because it has proven to work. In general terms, humans have a hard time putting a boundary between their habitat and that of other animals. I think our goal should be to reduce the size of our habitat without restricting our own advancement goals. If we can farm, it is prefferable to gathering because we are not having a negative impact past the area used for farming.

"Japan is small. But the sea is large. And so is the threat of getting cut off from our imports."

The first two sentences are rediculous and totally relative. The ocean is not infinite and Japan is not the only nation that fishes. The ocean can and has been overfished. As for imports, I think sanctions are an excellent solution for this whaling problem. Since the whale meat industry currently does not exist, Japan would be giving up nothing if it wanted to avoid such sanctions. I would respect any politician who would have the backbone to bring such a measure to the table.

Since the research is only done to find out if we can eat whales sustainably, then I think the research is wrong because I think eating whales is wrong. In other words, because we don't need to eat whales, we don't need to know how many toxins are in their system.

"I'm sorry, but you just can't do that. It would be very, very nice if we could, but we can't YET. Hopefully that will change."

Someone online once wrote: "The size of a problem cannot be given as a reason not to solve it". We both agree that it would be a good solution, so let's not cross it out. If the whale eaters were able to wait 20 years, they can wait another 20 while we find a way to farm non-sentient meat.
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2009
"I have never shown preference to behaviours that are considered "cultural heritage". Human sacrifice, cannibalism, and sexism are just a few behaviours that are part of certain cultures' heritages, that doesn't mean they are right! All the above behavior are ones that I consider wrong."
I havent explained this fully, but many people beleive that the ban on whaling is a direct threat on our marine diet.

"Klaus, you are using a distmantlative argument here. You are trying to invalidate my belief that something is wrong by offering something that you think is wrong. The racism/imperialism counterpoint does not offer logical argument against my points. Just because imperialism or racism against the Japanese is wrong doesn't mean that whaling is right. In fact, racism and imperialism have no bearing on what I think about the act of whaling. Whaling is wrong in my opinion, and offering distractions by pulling the race card does not change that."

I still beleive that anti whaling (On the International, not personal), is a general result of anti Japanese sentiment from the 80's~90's economic bubble among other things. This does not have anything to do with wether or not whaling is just, but its just an explanation of WHY the IWC did its thing.


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Someone online once wrote: "The size of a problem cannot be given as a reason not to solve it". We both agree that it would be a good solution, so let's not cross it out. If the whale eaters were able to wait 20 years, they can wait another 20 while we find a way to farm non-sentient meat."

Non sentient meat.....I looked, but don't think anybody is working on it in the first place..

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"I am not fundamentally opposed to fishing. I just feel that people need to invest a lot more willpower in making it balanced. But I still think that farming (fish farming) is far more preferable to hunting/gathering (fishing) because it has proven to work. In general terms, humans have a hard time putting a boundary between their habitat and that of other animals. I think our goal should be to reduce the size of our habitat without restricting our own advancement goals. If we can farm, it is prefferable to gathering because we are not having a negative impact past the area used for farming."
Though the last sentence is not neccesarily true, it can, and should be. FIsh farming is a very good solution, but many fishermen cannot pay the initial investment. Not to mention that Japan fishes outside its waters.

"The first two sentences are rediculous and totally relative. The ocean is not infinite and Japan is not the only nation that fishes. The ocean can and has been overfished. As for imports, I think sanctions are an excellent solution for this whaling problem. Since the whale meat industry currently does not exist, Japan would be giving up nothing if it wanted to avoid such sanctions. I would respect any politician who would have the backbone to bring such a measure to the table."

I never did say that the sea is infinite. I was just pointing out it was where we get a lot of our food, in contrast to nations like Australia and United States.

XD We have been talking on this, but you never did say WHY eating whales are wrong, even with the sustainability and so on.
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Xhydralisk Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
VERY strongly.
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2009
Thanks jollywrecker for your good review. I don't know what Klaus has done to condone such violent words, but please try not to use them here.
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jollywrecker92 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2009   Traditional Artist
You're welcome. :)

Klaus is just violent and he's primitive if he thinks this must remain a way of life, :( I've seen his comments on other people's who try to do the right thing and support to save these peaceful giants from slaughter, he's a monster. *shakes her head*
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Darcum Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2008
I can see where your coming from. I feel very strongly about this aswell, but I can't draw or even describe to brutality that happens during these events. It is really horrific, and I like the way you bring it out in the picture.
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budgies101 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
:iconshameofjapan: join our fight
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2009
So? Its been a part of our culture for years. And most everybody else's until they discovered Petroleum.
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2009
I'm afraid you are right, Klaus. Much of the lighting in early industrial age was fueled by whale oil. But that doesn't make it right.
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KlausVonWolfenstein Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2009
Unlike them, for us, its a way of life; culture and all that.
...it also happens that many countries that want Japan to end its whaling has laws that allows brutal treatment of animals, both wild and domesticated. LIke England, for instance. It allows the hunting of foxes with hunting dogs, where the dog tears the fox to peices, but doesnt want the richer (at the time of the IWC signing, and still now) Japan to whale.
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Arborean Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2009
I am glad you are sensitive to the mistreatment of foxes, and you'll be happy to hear that the UK has outlawed fox hunting now.

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Either way, two wrongs don't make a right. As a private citizen who doesn't hunt foxes or whales, I think I have the moral ground to ask the Japanese to stop. I bet there are many Japanese who don't want whaling either.
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nihnox Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, very good. I am very against this as well, and admire Hayden Panettiere for her efforts to stop it.
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